15: The power of self-healing: Energy work, motherhood + radical self-acceptance with Jordana Rachelle
Get on Spotify
-
Julie Francis (she/her) (00:00)
Hello and welcome to Holistic Chaos. I'm your host Julie. I'm an astrologer and founder of Wild Radiance Collective. And today I am joined by Jordana Rochelle, who is a psychic medium, ancestral energy healer, and empowerment coach who helps women who are craving more than just survival. Hmm, I love it. ⁓ so happy to talk with you today.
Jordana Rachelle (00:20)
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm very, very excited to be here. So thank you for having me as well.
Julie Francis (she/her) (00:28)
Yeah, I'm so excited to dive in and just hear your insights and your thoughts and your experiences. So let's get right to it. Tell us about your biggest what the fuck moment in midlife.
Jordana Rachelle (00:41)
I feel like there's a lot to choose from, but I think the most...
powerful or most profound and transformational moment was right after childbirth. So I have two children that are born 19 months apart and I had, so I suffered from like depression, chronic depression, chronic anxiety, PTSD, insomnia. I had IBS, I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia. I was on all kinds of medication and I...
It's kind of like, it's all intertwined and it's a bit of a long story, but I'll just kind of cut to the chase. I was able to self-heal from all of those diagnoses through plant medicine and energy healing. And so it's been many years that I don't have any depression, no chronic pain, no more like...
Yeah, IBS, no more migraines, no anxiety. It like took a huge turn and the shift where that came from was through motherhood because I went through severe postpartum depression and right after both my kids were born and they started to have really weird symptoms and like reactions that I just did not think were normal for healthy babies. And so I connected the dots and they were vaccine injuries. And so my what the fuck
was really connecting the dots of recognizing that I did the allopathic route. I listened to my doctors, I took all the medication, I did all the types of therapy that they suggested, I changed my diet, I tried to exercise. It's really hard for someone who's in a deep state of depression to exercise, but I listened to my doctors, I never had any relief. So I started using cannabis, CBD, and salicybin and had immediate relief.
Julie Francis (she/her) (02:25)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (02:34)
when my kids were exhibiting symptoms and reactions from vaccines, it was like, okay, hold on a second. What the fuck is going on when I keep listening to the doctors because they know better than me, I'm using air quotes, they know better than me, they're the professionals, they've gone to medical school, they should definitely know what's best for me and my kids. So that really catapulted me into a massive dark night of the soul and I just completely changed my life around.
completely stopped eating processed foods. I had to help my kids heal from their vaccine injuries naturally as well, which is also very possible. And my spiritual awakening really like catapulted from there. I knew that the allopathic system was certainly not going to help me or my children. And I looked outside of the system and went to energy healing and I did quantum healing hypnosis technique, which is founded by
Dolores Cannon for like, like past life regression and my psychic abilities. I'm also like 25th generation psychic medium. So this goes really far back in my maternal ancestral line. And so all of this really catapulted me into being the clairvoyant psychic medium that I am today and being able to read people's Akashic records and go into past lives. And that's where I incorporate energy healing to really help take out negative
emotions and behaviors and beliefs from your literal like your DNA from your five subtle energy bodies and work at the root cause of what could be causing depression or anxiety or even just behavioral patterns and beliefs that you have with like self-love and feeling deserving and worthy of love or healthy relationships or sorry I have like a fruit fly ⁓ or like money wounds or like always going
after the wrong men or having a hard time through motherhood. So yeah, my what the fuck moment definitely came from having babies. Yeah. Very.
Julie Francis (she/her) (04:41)
Yeah, so such a transformative period of time for like so many reasons,
because you're thinking about your, you know, so many things from our own childhood come up when we have kids. And then we're thinking so much about what's going to happen with our own kids and what's going on with them in their bodies. And then what's going on around the world around them. Like, it's just, it's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. Wow.
Jordana Rachelle (04:53)
Hmm.
It's a lot. It's a lot to carry. Yeah. Yeah.
And I also have
a really toxic narcissistic mother. So it was really difficult ⁓ growing up and my idea of having children was to prove that I could do a better job. So that was really interesting to to experience another what the fuck moment of like, wait, did I actually ever really want to be a mother or was this because I had something to prove? So it turns out it's it's a little bit about a little bit about. Yeah.
Julie Francis (she/her) (05:27)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's,
you know, I think when we can say things like that, honestly, that like kind of sting a little, you know, but we can like own it. I think that's really powerful. And it's just owning, owning all aspects of ourselves, which so many people aren't doing today, which is why so many of these disruptive things can happen. Like just because a feeling's bad doesn't mean it shouldn't exist or not. Maybe bad is not even the correct word, but bad to use your air quotes.
Jordana Rachelle (05:40)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Julie Francis (she/her) (06:00)
Like, you know, we're human. We're not meant to be perfect. We have these huge depth of feelings that can go in so many different directions and it's just not simple. So I really love that you named that, especially when it relates to being a parent because, ⁓ and a mother specifically, because there can be so much shame about not being perfect. So I just love that you called that out.
Jordana Rachelle (06:03)
Exactly.
Mm-hmm.
my god, so much.
Thank you. It's literally what I do. I'm constantly calling out the shadow sides of myself. I'm really learning how to embrace and embody my shadow self. For such a long time, I have fought with it and hated myself. I'm notoriously very hard on myself and that is a wound from being the daughter of a narcissistic parent. Looking outside of myself for love and validation, taking people's behaviours, whether it's
you know, like we're all adults, so like our friends, my friends get really busy and they have kids too and we might not talk for months and in the past I would take that as like a personal...
issue like, what did I do wrong? How come I'm not a good enough friend? Or know, like really personalizing other people's actions and through energy healing and mindset work and neuro-linguistic programming, which is all things that I guide my clients with and teach, I've used all the tools on myself and that's why I do what I do now because I did it for myself, I saw that it worked, it completely changed my life around and now I'm in the space of ⁓
really accepting that shadow self is just as important as my high vibe, higher self, love and light self. really, they need to be able to coexist because planet earth is literally duality. No soul came to this planet to experience only one thing. We came here to experience the dark and the light, the good and the bad, the evil and the, you know, like all of those things that are kind of opposite. That's what I believe planet earth is all about and what are human experiences.
experience is supposed to be about. So yeah, it's been quite a journey to share publicly is a huge passion of mine. it's actually, since you're an astrologer, I think you'll appreciate this very much. I had an astrology reading back in 2021. It was my first one ever. And...
The astrologer looked at my chart and was like, holy moly, like, I really haven't come across a lot of charts that look like this. He's like, but your soul's purpose is literally you experiencing trauma and then like talking about it and showing people the way to heal. And it's why I'm here. And that has been such a pivotal point for me because I was sharing my experiences with severe postpartum depression in an online community that I created back in 2018, which no longer exists today.
Julie Francis (she/her) (08:38)
Wow.
Jordana Rachelle (08:55)
It had over 5,000 women worldwide on it. And I would go live and I would talk so vulnerably, so authentically, raw, unfiltered, sharing like anything from...
severity of depression and anxiety and what my thoughts were like to like the white nipple hair that just appeared to like sex and connection with your husband and all of the things you know and it it really changed my life for the better to openly speak about trauma and challenges and especially triggers which is another specialty that I love working with ⁓ so yeah it's ⁓ it is interesting to talk about these things
Julie Francis (she/her) (09:14)
Yeah.
Yeah.
⁓
yeah, I'm super curious. Like now I'm like, I wish I could see your chart. Yeah, it really is like that astrologers really will be like, looking at a person or observing them or interacting with them and be like, I think it's this and I really wanted to act like we really are that kind of creepy.
Jordana Rachelle (09:37)
Yeah, it's good one.
Yeah, well you know it's
funny. ⁓ So my best friend is also an astrologer and an astral energy healer, energy healer, and she's taught me a lot about astrology. I actually in that quantum healing hypnosis technique session that I did, I did go to a past life where I saw both of us and at the time she had nothing to do with astrology and I saw a vision of her teaching astrology and like using technology that doesn't exist obviously on planet earth right now but like using these modalities of bringing in constellations.
and teaching people what to do. And now that I know more about astrology, it's so wild that when I'm in a psychic reading or an ancestral energy healing session with a client, I can pinpoint, especially with the Aries, because that's what she is, but I know that you're not just one sign, but I can tell when someone is meant to create projects.
Julie Francis (she/her) (10:37)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (10:42)
like birth them, create them, and then let them go and move on to something else. So it's really cool how I picked that up from astrology and I can read that in people now and be like, yeah, I think you're in Aries, right? And they're like, uh-huh. And I'm like, sweet. Like I knew that, you know? Yeah.
Julie Francis (she/her) (10:55)
Fascinating. ⁓ I love that you've described that
the from the creation to putting it out there and then letting it go. Like that's that's that's such a hard lesson for the person too. So the fact that you can name it and and then be like this is this is how this is intended because there's there's all that feeling of like, ⁓ I don't want it. That's it. I just did all that. And that's it. And because then it's like, what do I do now? And depending. Yeah. Aries people might be like, yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (11:07)
Mmm.
Mmm.
yet.
Julie Francis (she/her) (11:24)
good or maybe they don't even finish. That's also the harder part. It's like did they finish? Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (11:26)
Yeah, yeah.
Or also like
a lot of overwhelm of knowing like, I have all these amazing ideas and I really don't know where to start with any of that. What do I do? So it's like, okay, like I'm able because of my psychic abilities, I'm able to see like which path, like different trajectories and like what the outcomes are for are going to be, sorry, for each trajectory. And so that gives more clear guided insight so that they could be like, okay, great. This is the project, like the one you just talked about. That's what I'm going to start with. So it really does help people feel
Julie Francis (she/her) (11:36)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (11:58)
more in alignment and it gives so much validation and confirmation for people who do feel overwhelmed and confused like not just Aries people but anyone who doesn't know where to go what to do whether it's marriage or children or career or even health so yeah
Julie Francis (she/her) (12:06)
Yeah.
So when you're doing,
when you're, and just to use the description of like a project or something that's being created, and you can see these different pathways with different outcomes, ⁓ when you go into reading with people like this, are you like, hey, how much do you wanna know? Do you wanna know like bare minimum, or do you wanna know the whole thing? Like, how does that work?
Jordana Rachelle (12:17)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I always have a bit of a spiel at the beginning of my readings. So my body is so cute and funny and it loves to like yawn and burp and tear when I do readings or energy healing. I always know like what's happening when I'm in the session. So I'll always give that disclaimer of like I'm not a pig. You're not boring. Like this is just how my body works, you know. And then I'll always ask like is there anything you don't want to know about because I can see illness.
Julie Francis (she/her) (12:53)
hahahahah
Jordana Rachelle (13:02)
I can see death and I can see if someone's been cheating in a marriage. can see all of those things. So it is really important to have a disclaimer and kind of see where boundaries are up with my clients because I don't want to divulge information that ⁓ might be overly triggering, but.
Julie Francis (she/her) (13:09)
and
Jordana Rachelle (13:21)
there's like a caveat to that because I do believe that if you're coming to me for a reading, it's because you are ready. Your soul is ready for the information that's going to come through. I'm because of all the self development and inner healing that I've done through myself over the last few years, I'm really capable of delivering information in a very soft, empowering and nurturing way. So it doesn't feel like you're not going to have a reading with me and then walk away feeling super anxious and like, what the fuck? You know, you're going to be like,
Julie Francis (she/her) (13:30)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (13:51)
my God, that was so validating. I feel so much better now. That was the best money I've ever spent on myself. That's always my goal. I want my clients to feel held and seen and given information that their soul's clearly really ready to step into.
Julie Francis (she/her) (14:06)
Yeah, wow, that's amazing. And I can see what you mean about you're here. So there's a part of you that's ready. That's really valuable. ⁓
Jordana Rachelle (14:13)
Yeah.
And also I do energetically feel boundaries that come up. So let's say for example, I have a lot of clients that will come to me for relationship stuff like, I'm lonely. Am I ever going to meet this guy? Da da da da. What's going to happen? And sometimes I can say to them like, yes, here's a description of the man that you're going to meet. Here's like their energy, how they act, how they dress, all the things. And I can feel the timeline, but then I almost feel like a wall's put up and I'm not allowed to give them the timeline.
Then I explain to them I can see when this person would come into your life But today if I give you that information it's gonna distract you from the path that you're currently on and it's really important for you to Do what you're supposed to be doing right now and just trust that this person's coming into your life. You don't need to know when right? It's just about you need to continue where you're at because when people people really hang on so much they can not all but some people can really hang on to every word I say and so if what I say
Julie Francis (she/her) (15:04)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (15:15)
in a psychic reading is not exactly how it happens and they're like, she's not a good psychic. And it's like, no, no, Like you need to understand that like timelines are constantly changing and I'm tapping into the energy that you are present with in that moment. So if you make a decision tomorrow to quit your job after I just gave you a reading and told you don't quit yet, that's not, that's not on me. You know what I mean? So yeah, certain information has boundaries for sure. So it's really important to respect that.
Julie Francis (she/her) (15:22)
Right.
Right, yeah.
When you, so you sound like such an incredibly skilled psychic medium. So I'm curious about your journey into coming into that with yourself. So I know your what the fuck moment sent you back into like a far more holistic lifestyle and you were just really tuning into your body and energy, but were you aware of your mediumship skills before you kind of got in this, ⁓
Jordana Rachelle (15:48)
Thank you.
Julie Francis (she/her) (16:10)
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but like this rut or situation you are in.
Jordana Rachelle (16:12)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
That's a really great question. So I did grow up with a mom who was famously known for being psychic. She had a radio show and TV commercials and would read celebrities and politicians. you know, in the 90s growing up, it was really difficult because I was badly bullied for it. People would be like, your mom's not a psychic. She's a psycho. And she was extremely successful. So we had really fancy cars and really nice clothes and children don't get that. Right. So it's like, your mom's
Julie Francis (she/her) (16:35)
⁓
Jordana Rachelle (16:44)
fraud and stealing people's money. So there was definitely an aspect of like, hmm, you know, like don't really know, but there was a time in my teenage head where I was really craving more information. I did feel really connected to it and I wanted her to teach me tarot and how to connect with spirits and things like that.
My mom was not a nurturing mother at all. She had no intention of being a mother. So this was not something that she felt called to nurture with me. So there I think was some resentment and blocks that I had put up because it wasn't just my mom. was my mom and her sisters and my grandmother, like her whole family was in that industry and in that field. ⁓ So even though I would feel like my grandfather being present or I would feel
Julie Francis (she/her) (17:25)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (17:33)
So we, the house that I grew up in.
was pretty large and very like open space on the main floor and I would feel so there's always this feeling physical feeling and I'm sure like all people can feel this when the energy or like something comes into the room that's just like and like your spine goes straight and like you get chills and your shoulders get tense and so that's how I felt growing up in my house every day. I always knew that there were spirits in my home energies entities in my home that I could not explain I could not ⁓
Julie Francis (she/her) (17:58)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (18:06)
you know, really understand and it was really uncomfortable growing up. So I think I put some blocks up with all of that because there was no education, there was no support, no nurture around it. So when I did my quantum energy healing course to become an energy healer, it was really interesting to dive into
Julie Francis (she/her) (18:20)
Right.
Jordana Rachelle (18:31)
really trusting what I was feeling and what I was seeing and I had to put boundaries up with spirits because I would see them in my condo and I would like be called to like cross people over and I was like no no no no no this is not how I'm gonna live my life so I put certain energetic boundaries up so now I only connect with spirit when I say okay I'm going to connect with spirit so yeah I'm not sure if I answered your question did I?
Julie Francis (she/her) (18:45)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
You did. was, yeah. That's a, I mean, that's a huge journey in and of itself because, and would you, would you feel like there was a time in your life where you felt like that skill and this ability was like, you looked at it more like it was a shadow side of yourself, like where you weren't as welcoming to it because of.
Jordana Rachelle (19:02)
Yeah.
Julie Francis (she/her) (19:20)
some of the experiences you had as a kid, like...
Jordana Rachelle (19:23)
I think so. think it was, my God, that is such an introspective question. I really love that. I'm actually doing a lot of energy healing myself these days because I'm going through a lot with my mom. She's really unwell. And it's been coming up a lot that like where I have...
beliefs and energetic ties to money and motherhood because she was not present and she focused so much on her business and being a millionaire and being famous and was so neglectful. So there was definitely a side of me that was like, ⁓ these two things cannot coexist. You cannot be a really well-known psychic and be really financially successful and be a good mom at the same time. So I've been really working through that and ⁓ I am putting out a new offer for next Tuesday.
and I did so much energy healing right before I launched that offer and I already have more than like 10 people signed up and I'm like, my gosh, this is crazy. So it just goes to show that when you are pulling out the emotions and the beliefs and the behaviors associated to childhood things, how it really opens up.
Julie Francis (she/her) (20:18)
Amazing.
Jordana Rachelle (20:29)
potential and possibility to better things to come into your life. So there's definitely for a long time was a shadow side of psychic being a well-known psychic or just being psychic at all for career and being a mom at the same time. So it really is interesting to be coming out of that right now.
Julie Francis (she/her) (20:47)
Yeah, oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, and I'm so excited. I wanna make sure we talk more about your event you've got coming up a little bit later. So we'll make sure to circle back to that. you tell us like...
Jordana Rachelle (20:50)
Thank you.
Julie Francis (she/her) (21:02)
What kinds of things are you facing in your own life now when you feel you're... I know you're working with shadows really well and very intentionally, but like, are there things that pop up for you that still stop you in your tracks that you have to reorient yourself and what kinds of things? Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (21:14)
Mm-hmm.
Of course.
Yeah, that's motherhood. That's motherhood
all the time. My beauty, I have two really amazing kids and my son is, so I believe that mothers, what we birth is we have one child or if you only have one child it's very possible that that's your child, the child I'm about to speak of. But there's always going to be a child that mirrors your biggest insecurities, your biggest triggers and for me that's my son. He is a...
Let me put it to you this way. He is a Capricorn Libra Squirtle.
I think those are his three signs. So he's he's hardcore and he's extremely psychic as well So there's a lot of moments where he really knows he kind of reminds me my mom in some ways, which is very fucking triggering Where he knows what buttons to push the things to say so Yeah after postpartum depression. So when I talked a little bit about The severity of postpartum depression earlier, but what I experienced was severe
Julie Francis (she/her) (22:17)
Yes.
Jordana Rachelle (22:32)
postpartum depression, anxiety, and rage. And this was all within my fourth trimester. And the rage that I experienced was the ugliest. Like talk about Shadowside. It was devastating. It was horrendous to go through that. And so that obviously had a traumatic effect on both my children. My son, who is psychic and very sensitive, had a bigger impact from my rage. And so today I still am very much working on
not raging, not saying mean things when I'm angry, ⁓ and I'm helping myself with EFT, emotional freedom technique meditations. I do energy healing. ⁓ And yeah, I think motherhood and dealing with my mom at the same time and her declining health has been pretty challenging, pretty challenging. So those are the two biggest things in my life that I'm just still very much working through.
Julie Francis (she/her) (23:05)
you
you
Yeah, and you're speaking to so many midlife folks that are parents. The balance, it's so much and you've got things on different end of the spectrum. one of the things that's so hard is not just healing within this on yourself, on your own as you think about where your mom is or where your children are, like all of it's, and I don't wanna speak for you, but I'm trying to think to
to example, that we're all thinking like, what's it gonna look like for me when my kids, when my kids are my age and then I'm older, like how is this all going? Like how is this, it just becomes, like earlier today we were like, it's a lot, like it's a lot and it creates so much discomfort. And I just think that your dedication is just awe inspiring to
Jordana Rachelle (24:11)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Julie Francis (she/her) (24:23)
to continue to be serving others through this because ⁓ that's a lot to give, to continue to give while you're also managing all on your own things as well. So that's really incredible. I'm wondering, like, do you ⁓ have a specific age range of clients that you tend to work with? Do you tend to work with ⁓ folks that I, as I described, like,
Jordana Rachelle (24:29)
Mm-hmm.
Thank you.
Julie Francis (she/her) (24:51)
in their late 30s, 40s or 50s? What are the age groups of people that come to you?
Jordana Rachelle (24:52)
Hmm
Such a great question. ⁓ So I have a few different offerings and I so when one off psychic readings or energy healing sessions can really range from anywhere from 20 to 75. I also have a group membership where I do energy healing every month for six months with the clients and group psychic insight and things like that. And in my program right now I have a 21 year old new mom and I also have like a 60 year old. So it's really there's no
.
There's no really like age specific. I think what is specific about the people who come to me is that they are women who are just fucking ready. They are like, I am done. I don't want to feel like this anymore. I don't want to continue to be triggered by my mother's actions or my child's actions. I have a woman who has like crazy chronic anxiety and I can pinpoint exactly when it started, why it started, where it came from. And like we're healing that for her now. And women who are going through divorce.
from narcissistic partners and finding their voice and finding their strength because they've been beaten down for such a long time by being with narcissistic partners that you know so my clientele is really women who are just ready it's it's there's no age limit it's really just yeah I'm sick of this I need this didn't work that didn't work I like what you have to say let's give this a go and then a lot of my clients are repeat clients because they just love working with me
Julie Francis (she/her) (26:26)
I can imagine
why. love your assertive and direct yet nurturing approach. Like I really like that. That's a hard balance to hold and you've got it. So I can totally understand why.
Jordana Rachelle (26:28)
Hahaha
Thank you. ⁓
⁓ thank you. Yeah, well, that's just
proof of all the work because
Growing up, I was not a nice person. I was a bully in itself. I would hit people really hard with my words. I acted like my mom in lot of ways and would hit people below the belt and take personal information that they would share with me and use it against them. I was really unkind and very judgmental and very critical and really just mean. yeah, postpartum depression and all that I've been through, really like the woman that I was before children.
and who I am today are incomparable. There's very little that I can say like, oh yeah, I'm still like that. I think that's the power of energy healing. And I was actually on the phone with a close friend of mine early this morning and she's going through it and she's in therapy and she's on medication and she's like, Jordan, I don't get it. I've been at this for two years. Like nothing's changing and I don't feel better. And I'm really ready to try something else. And I was like, thank God, like you're in the right place.
Julie Francis (she/her) (27:40)
Hi!
Jordana Rachelle (27:41)
I
was like, I've been waiting for you to say this, you know? So because that's it. What I really do believe that what I offer is a
Julie Francis (she/her) (27:43)
you
Jordana Rachelle (27:48)
thousand times more effective and much better than traditional talk therapy and medication. I don't think anxiety and depression needs to be medicated. I think it's root causes, it's emotional trauma. Even things like ADHD, I'm learning are trauma responses. So a lot of the things that people are being medicated for are things that they're putting a bandaid on and they're not really going to the root cause. It's not that hard to pinpoint the root cause of illness anymore, at least for people like me.
Julie Francis (she/her) (28:18)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (28:18)
easy.
Julie Francis (she/her) (28:20)
Oh, yeah. That's, I think it's really admirable that you waited two years for your friend to come to you and say they're ready because it's so easy when you're a service provider to be like, I can help you. I can help you. Let me help you. Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (28:32)
I've tried. Yeah, yeah. Two years ago, like
I definitely did say to her, well, you know, and she just wasn't ready to receive. So it's like, I'll always put it out there. Like, hey, I'm willing to help you. Like, I don't charge my friends money like like people who I've grown up with, you know. And but then we did talk about the whole no charging thing because I said you need to have skin in the game when you are ready to invest in a coach or a membership or something. You are telling not just your mind, body and soul, you're telling the universe.
Julie Francis (she/her) (28:46)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (29:02)
hey, I'm here and I'm ready to heal. So when you're putting a financial exchange on an exchange to help you, it really adds a whole like, like a stronger layer, more powerful layer to your healing experience because you are doing that exchange and you're telling all your five subtle energy bodies in the universe, like, yes, I'm ready for this, let's go. So, yeah.
Julie Francis (she/her) (29:27)
I like that perspective. ⁓
You so often hear from the service provider perspective of making sure you're charging for your services, but I really like that idea as being the person who's receiving, showing that commitment. I really like that. ⁓ Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (29:41)
Yeah. It's so important. So important
to have skin in the game when you're healing. Yeah.
Julie Francis (she/her) (29:48)
Will you tell us
more about your event that you have coming up?
Jordana Rachelle (29:52)
Yes, I'd love to. So speaking of all the narcissistic things that I've experienced from my own childhood with my mom.
⁓ I am putting together a online energy healing circle next Tuesday evening at 830 Eastern Standard Time. This is dedicated to women who are really ready to release their parental wounds. So they don't need to have narcissistic parents to join. But if someone has experienced any form of emotional or mental neglect, manipulation, narcissism, any form of abuse, ⁓ this is going to be a really great space. I'll be doing energy healing, inner child healing.
a forgiveness meditation and some journal prompts for deeper reflection. And it's only $44 Canadian and it's 45 minutes. So it's really, really going to be a great time. I launched it yesterday. I had five people sign up within like 10 minutes. It was like, yep, the universe is supporting this. So every time I get into a huge thing with my mom, I kind of just giggle and I'm like, thanks for giving me like more things to make my life better and like earn more abundance and support more people through the drama.
Julie Francis (she/her) (30:45)
Yes.
Jordana Rachelle (30:59)
You know, it's not just like drama that hurts my heart, but it's actually helping me heal and in that same time I get to help other people heal at the same time, like symbiotically. Yeah, thank you.
Julie Francis (she/her) (31:10)
Yeah, that's so powerful. It's so hard
to be that vessel, that person that has to experience it, but you are doing a great job of owning it and sharing your story and helping others. That's ⁓ admirable. Thank you.
Jordana Rachelle (31:21)
Thank you.
Thank
you, my goodness, thank you so much. That's really sweet.
Julie Francis (she/her) (31:33)
I've enjoyed our conversation so much today. You have so much to share and I can tell that we could just, we could totally keep talking for like ever. Totally good. So tell us, can you leave us with one message that you would want listeners to think of when they're navigating their own chaos? What was that?
Jordana Rachelle (31:40)
Yeah, we could talk another hour for sure. Like, well you can have me back anytime, no worries. Many topics to talk about.
I'm not naked, just so you know. So I took
off my sweater and I was like, just so you know, I'm not naked. Because you totally could have been like.
Julie Francis (she/her) (32:03)
⁓ I
actually wasn't phased, but now that you mention it, yeah, you totally do. That might help our views. ⁓
Jordana Rachelle (32:09)
Right now I look fully naked.
You never know. ⁓ Sorry,
so you were saying like one thing that I can give listeners to take away from. Yes, definitely. I think that my message is always that inner healing, like healing is 100 % possible without traditional talk therapy and medication and allopathic ways.
It's possible. I've experienced it myself. I've climbed out of such a deep darkness myself and like I've said, I'm not the same person and I've helped hundreds of women over the last few years and...
I think it's really important that people start to recognize that there's so much more to life than we even know. Like, how is it that I see dead people? How? How can I see other planets and alien collectives? How can I see your ancestors 10 generations back? How is that physically, like, how is that possible? Right? But I do. So to me, that is so empowering and...
Julie Francis (she/her) (33:06)
Yeah.
Jordana Rachelle (33:11)
It just helps me be able to tell people like there's so much more out there than we even can begin to understand. So if there's more out there, then it's time for you to share. the other thing I really, sorry, time for you to open up to it. The other thing I really want to share is that I am 110 % convinced that if you're not feeling uncomfortable,
with change and you're not like you're not feeling uncomfortable to make a decision then you're not growing, you're not evolving, you're not changing. There has to be an element of discomfort when you are working on yourself, when you want to take a leap of faith into let's say a different career or end your relationship. Oftentimes people get way too comfortable in the kind of discomfort that keeps us suppressed. So this is like a different kind of discomfort where it like pushes you outside
yourself to do things that are actually more in alignment with yourself if that makes sense. I think it makes sense.
Julie Francis (she/her) (34:09)
It does, yes. those
are both really, really good points. And ⁓ the discomfort is a big one, because I talk about discomfort a lot in my work and with talking with people. And ⁓ there's so much richness there. There's so much depth, and we have to be willing to explore it.
Jordana Rachelle (34:26)
There is. Yeah.
Yeah, 100%. I'm so happy you had me on. Thank you.
Julie Francis (she/her) (34:32)
Yeah. Thank you so much for
coming on. This has been absolutely wonderful. I'm so glad we got to connect and chat. And I'm so excited for you for your event. I'll be putting the info for that. I'll make sure to grab the link from Jordana and put it in the show notes below so that people can get signed up for that. And I look forward to seeing what you do next.
Jordana Rachelle (34:42)
Thank you.
Thank you so much, Julie. I hope you have a fantastic day and I look forward to listening to this back and also your future episodes. enjoy your podcast so much. So thank you.
Julie Francis (she/her) (35:04)
Thank you so much.
In this episode, I sit down with the fiercely honest Jordana Rachelle—psychic medium, ancestral energy healer, and empowerment coach—for a raw, soul-stirring conversation about motherhood, shadow work, and finding your footing after everything falls apart.
Jordana shares her journey through severe postpartum depression, anxiety, and rage—and the spiritual awakening that followed—describing how energy work, intuition, and radical self-honesty helped her reclaim her voice and path. She also opens up about complicated mother–daughter dynamics, setting boundaries with spirit, and what it means to be seen as both a healer and a human.
We explore embracing the shadow (not bypassing it), energetic consent in readings, why some timelines are off-limits, and the role of discomfort as a compass for growth. We also talk about rebuilding identity in midlife, letting projects complete (and letting them go), and learning to trust your own inner timing.
Jordana also shares details about her upcoming event, Safe to Soften: A nurturing space to release the pain of parental wounds. This healing circle is for the woman who was emotionally neglected, learned to suppress her needs, or still carries pain from her childhood. Jordana invites you to lay down what you’ve been holding and remember it’s safe to soften.
Whether you’re navigating postpartum echoes, family wounds, or a full-on midlife WTF, this conversation is a reminder that healing isn’t polished—it’s powerful. Slow down, tune in, and let your truth lead you.
Learn more about Jordana's upcoming event, Safe to Soften, here: https://wix.to/nOqBMBC
Connect with Jordana (she/her)
Website: https://jordanarachelle.com
Instagram: https://jordanarachelle
Facebook: https://jordanarachelle
